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  1. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    so, i started another thread about warlord regalia and general message seems to be to wait to see what happens with it before purchasing.
    im finding it very difficult to accumulate block rating, seems that the new lvl 55 leg shields base block is very low, without crafting a perfect version of leg shield/shoulders my block wont be sufficient. im sitting at 47% now with t2 wolf slayer shield(old version) and some 50% armour rating shoulders. question is...for a beginner tank what is the best way to go? is it to continue to try and craft? or would the wrathkeeper be my best option at this point?
    my hp is good and my block strength is good too, just need a solution to this problem.

    any advice would help
    cheers
     
  2. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    I have not put 10 points wisdom in block rate.

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    I would forget the BW set & any better future shield similar to T2/T3 Wolf slayer shield & 140%+ Block rate Vargulf shield. No clear info to that..
    Do not think these as a must have item for now. Let them be as a bonus when you finally have it.
    Also the new green, blue, pink & legendary nerfed shield.. not worth anything, the base block rate just too low.

    60% Block rate pouldron is obtainable. This can boost the block rate to whatever shield you may have.
    Also green & blue lvl 48-50 shield still drop at lor'tac. This shield still potential to use. Take a look at my last 2 screenshots.. with only being 126% Block rate it is considered usable when upgraded to 60.

    One think to consider if using Block rate pouldron. You might lower your armor since unable to boost armor from %Increase armor pouldron.
    In condition like this, I would consider my self not ready yet to be 1H DK that I wanted to be. So need to farm more in order to improve block rate or to improve better armor rate, and that without the pouldron. It can be gems & glyph.

    You could try to calculate how much block rate you would have if you upgrade your T2 Wolf slayer shield. You could make decision base on that, whether to farm some glyph or take another route to improve block rate from more % Block rate shield instead of Block strength shield.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2017
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  3. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    thanks for the reply gun. ye im holding off on the warlord set for when its updated..looks like the best bet would be a pink lvl 50 shield levelled to 60 with good crafted shoulders. they certainly are making like difficult for a new dk to be able to tank harder content, not quite sure why they have made lvl 55 shields base rating so low..its very frustrating
     
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  4. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    I hope the reason is the future dragan set and new items that will come.
     
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  5. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    another question, block rating vs block rating on item..which would be superior? would it be rating on item without shoulders with base rating? once i get dragan t4 shoulders which could theoretically have a base of 1900 would overall block rating be stronger? or just in general is straight rating stronger?
     
  6. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    I think the intention of %BrotI is to do strength reduction on overall block rate. So other item such as special pouldron which have base block rate would not included into calculation.

    The base block rate on dragan pouldron will be included into calculation by any %Br. As you can see on my test above.

    So yes %Br would give more block rating than %BrotI.

    Edit:
    I manage to get Battleworn set. I'm lucky enough to get 1874 block rate on the pouldron. And here is the set potential using old shield with at least 140% Block rate & with no wisdom skill use on block rate.
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    The set give minimum 30.8 extra block rate in total from the blue stats(Tier 3 is the same).

    I'm thinking for players who don't have pre R.185 shield. Still able to craft level 50 pink shield with at least 135%-145% block rate. Being the random line is also %Br.
    R.185 unique shields could work too, when crafted with 3/4 legendary % block rate shield & upgraded to 60.

    This particular build is open for players to transfer craft %Increase armor legendary pouldron to the battleworn pouldron, to increase overall armor rating

    Edit 2:
    I just realized it is possible to create lvl 51+ shield with base block rate as high as pre R185 shield.

    Assuming we have lvl 55 green shield with gold line %BrotI. Craft this shield with pre R185 shield. Only accept if %BrotI inherited & the base block rate is from one of the pre R185 shields.

    In my case I have 2pcs lvl 50 2/3 pink pre R185. I'm going to keep trying craft it until I got at least 170% Br with good enough random line, and the base block rate must inherit from one of both.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2017
  7. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    ye i have the full set now, rating isnt an issue outside of infernal(which i believe my rating is around 69%). i crafted a 40% rating 13% resist 13% armor shoulder that i will add to my dragan shoulder, i believe its rating at 55 is 1785 if i remember correctly. just gonna try and run spider some more to get a gold line like yours. the shield i actually have a 55 pink with 105% rating and a gold base block rating that i levelled to 60..so its fine for now until i can craft something better.
     
  8. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    We were promised a REPLACEMENT shield for DK's after they ruined the wolfslayer/vargulf shields a few releases ago ... As you can see, those promises have lead to absolute squatt!!! As of this date, those were empty promises. Typical BP.

    Thanks, Doc.
     
  9. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    finally got good shoulders and crafted into them, now at 76% in infernal mode. only thing holding me back is a good(crafting bas been very unsuccesful) here are my shoulders...[​IMG] [​IMG]

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  10. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    The image not showing. But I can see it by copying the image address.
    Nice pouldron & enchantments you have there :)
     
  11. sirlansalot

    sirlansalot Forum Apprentice

    thanks! ye super happy...step number one. now for the shield ugh!
     
  12. Arx_X

    Arx_X Advanced

    well, things just changed, for the worse for the DKs leveling from now on.
    There are no more "pre 185" shields, even lvl 45 shields have been updated to new crappy BR standards(lvl 45-46 < 1k BR base)
     
  13. galadriale

    galadriale Junior Expert

    Regarding block rate of shield, I am a ranger and not sure about other classes. i find it the base block rate is way too low for new legendary shield. I have an old lv 48 leg shield with base value 2548 bloack rate and 135% increase block rate. At lv 51 it is only 48% chance to block and it is going to drop to about 30% at lv 55.

    1. I find it new legendary shield base block rate is too low, I am not sure which patch started this substantial reduction. I cannot find shield with only block rate and block strength anymore. Now it always have base armour, health points and other enchantments but sacrifing the block rate and block strength. What is the point of having increase % block rate on a shield with low base value of block rate? I see many unique shield are like that...

    With low base block rate, it is useless to have other items with % increase in block rate enchantment, those with less than 20% increase additional enchantment are almost nothing, would not change the ultimate block chance. For ranger shield, is it the fact that now we cannot find shield like my old shield anymore?

    2. The drop of block rate when promote to the next level is too large, the upgrade of item level cannnot compensate the drop, so keep on dropping when character level increasing with current leg shield.

    Any rangers have nice leg shield with ultimate value of 60-70% block chance without using knowledge ability and othe side enchantments from other item parts?

    Any possible chance to have a shield with 60%-70% ultimate block chance for ranger? If not, what is the best possible % block chance ranger could get from shield only?

    It seems that reaching max level, it is pointless to use shield anymore if the block chance is too low. Everyone switch to doubled-handed weapon. And I still want to have a chance to use shield in practical pvp and pve

    Thank you!
     
  14. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    You may have the old base block rate from the old shield and may have enchantments from the new shield by crafting it.
    Check this out

    FYI the new shield base block rate just being increased in R195. Yes it's slightly increased. But better than nothing. Plus new shield have more base Armor & Resistant that old shield does not have.
     
  15. galadriale

    galadriale Junior Expert

    Unfortunately, I dont have old extraordinary shield for crafting the leg shield. But thanks!
     
  16. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    You don't use extraordinary shield.

    You use this one:
    The example craft that I did leg shields. Does not matter if you only have 1 old leg & 3 new one. Only accept if the result inherit the old base stats from the old shield.
     
  17. Kohn_Hamper

    Kohn_Hamper Junior Expert

    I crafted this beauty a few days ago [​IMG]
     
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  18. UndergroundKiller

    UndergroundKiller Forum Expert

    how much block you reach with that shield?
     
  19. Kohn_Hamper

    Kohn_Hamper Junior Expert

    23k with uncrafted pauldrens, but Ill just put x3 or x4 resist stat into pauldrens when I get them, I can afford to give up that 22% block rate line and still have 80% in infernal
     
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  20. galadriale

    galadriale Junior Expert

    May I ask if it is pristine core crafting? transfering leg shield stat to unique stat? what did you use to combine? thank a lot!!
     
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