Blocking XP

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  1. Blindsenses

    Blindsenses Forum Apprentice

    Hello,

    I don't know if what i'm about to say it's a little off topic or not but i have a little idea, maybe it's already on the forum, maybe not... here it is:

    Everyday i see more and more players begging for Xp Block on Heredur or any other dungeons. Sadly, probably 1% of them are actually getting any help. Old players, with strong guilds which are making new characters, they...hmmm, dominate the arena only because they have the ability to farm, farm, farm without getting any xp from it , so there they go with the Marshal title, over 4k Hp and over 300 dmg on lvl 16. Well, i agree, old players with good guild or lvl 45 friends should benefit from this, otherwise would be pointless to be a veteran but, new players should also have the ability to do the same stuff, harder of course. So, here is my idea: There should be potions or scrolls for XP Block, exactly like the ones that give 100% more Hp, lasting an hour and their cost let's say 700-1000 Andermats. That would be brilliant... it would encourage players to pay for Andrermats and also would eliminate the boredom to endlessly spam the chats for help waiting 1 hour or more to actually get negative responses. Well, that's only my idea.

    Peace!
     
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  2. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Come back to the light, don't go to the dark side. Those narcissistic self serving butt plugs that think building a low level toon that destroys everyone of the same level are not doing any of us favors. Helping those people farm for GOP and gear is just as despicable. Getting joy by killing a new player that has just fallen off the turnip truck is like torturing puppies. They need therapy and to go ask their mom for a hug. Level your toon and make em pay later when they venture outside the city with the PVP flag on.
     
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  3. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    its not all about pvp.
    some pvp skills work in dungeons,shield ect. as u all know.
    how can this be when its for pvp? not that im complaining.
     
  4. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Its there to encourage pve'rs to do pvp. If the stun break or level 40 pvp talents didn't worked in pve, I don't know if I would have even bothered with pvp.
     
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  5. Blindsenses

    Blindsenses Forum Apprentice

    BigPapa, i wasn't encouraging the low level gods but i will give you a valid example. The Desert of Essences Event: I, myself got lucky and got fragments for it really fast but i had a friend who was farming for fragments and the average he was getting per day was...hmm... 10. Tell me, how useful is that set if he also wants to attend 1 more full moon event and during this process he will get 10+ levels on his character. You know how "often" these events are coming so... a lvl 25 who got the full set eventually, also wants to get the Vargulf set but in the mean time he hits lvl 35... what's the use of Desert of Essences set anymore?
     
  6. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    During an event like dessert of essence is the wrong time to farm realm frags. Intelligence goes a long way. Save up now your Realm fragments for the next event. You too will get the body if you have focus. For the XP blocking stuff that is not the focus of this game. Great suggestion for some other games but the focus here is that they did not want people of higher levels killing mobs for the lower levels. So if there is a group of 5+ level the the low man gets 0 xp from all the kills.
     
  7. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    if your suggestion went in place, oh my gosh. Draken's older updates like level locking certain maps would turn into trash. I guess the answer is therefore a "no".
     
  8. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I understand your thought that there may be more use in an XP block than the one I gave, but no doubt it would be used for twinking. For your gear example I guess my question would be, why get the desert gear at all if you are not going to use it to get to the next levels? Are you saying those that find a decent set of gear in an event should now have the option to stop leveling? I would say instead, do 300 miles an hour to 45 and then you can get and keep everything you want.
     
  9. -DeathRaider-

    -DeathRaider- Forum Pro

    ok im am so sick of people whining about twinks, when its the cheapest way to get strong and have fun. at lvl 45 there is people that spend $60k. i have a twink and i enjoy the game becuase i kick butt, but im looked down upon do to this. all of you can do the same thing, but no you will whine about how theykill new players and screw with the game, when all they are doing is taking advantage of the fact that everything is easier to upgrade and get stronger for that lvl.:p
     
  10. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You kick butt? Well the truth is ... it is the only way you can kill someone. Upgrading white items to level 50 ... that is the only skill that twinks have.

    Meet my 2,5 years old toon specialized in killing twinks. :cool:

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    PS. - those are Grimmagstone legendary items. ;)
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2015
  11. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    If the mechanic of the game was such that Twinks could fight twinks then fine, no harm no foul, but we all know the primary reason for twinking is so you can fight against people on their way through the levels that haven't spent time or money developing a toon. Hey lets build our gear up so we can fight against people that don't have gems above simple and are wearing blues they got 5 levels ago. So much fun to make new folks feel like their toon sux and the game sux because of it. Guess where the majority of P2W and OP arguments come from.
     
  12. -DeathRaider-

    -DeathRaider- Forum Pro

    all your points are valid, but you fail to contemplate the fact that it is smart to take advantage of the low lvls. So many people hate this because they don't want to twink. they might not have the time.
    Im going to say 1 thing what do you call what you are doing? Hmmm ;)
     
  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I will quote one ancient philosopher:
    In other words ... cleaning the environment from the pollution. :p
     
  14. DesertKoala

    DesertKoala Forum Pro

    I'll jump into this quagmire of a topic. My personal opinion regarding Twinks having played this game a very very long time.

    1. DSO had the ability to prevent Twinking ages ago. That alone tells you it is fair. It doesn't mean it is good. It doesn't mean it is fun. It just means that DSO doesn't see a problem with it. ....or didn't.
    2. As build, a twink is a horrifically boring process. There are maps and quest lines you cannot access.
    3. Beating up on new players is bad for the community. You scare off would-be new players. You need to look into the mirror tough guy. This doesn't make you strong. It shows a fault in your personal character.
    4. Beating up on high level players, is actually hilarious. That I do think is one of the sole virtues of a twink. Even that is snoresville after a point.
    5. Nobody can convince me there is a good reason to twink beyond novice KOTO. A flag bearer or marshal twink is a gross perversion of the game mechanics. Many have said it is too hard to jump into level 45 arena. Wrong, I've seen plenty of new kotos hold their own.
    6. Your time is up. The folks at DSO are certainly making some nice baby steps to plug the holes and prevent twink building. I am really happy to see that happen.

    As far as me, I play my main Ranger and enjoy it completely. I have a lowbie who has started the climb now. I highly recommend you climb the XP levels and enjoy the game.
     
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  15. -DeathRaider-

    -DeathRaider- Forum Pro

    I have 1 question what server are you on?im done arguing ,we both have points that are obviously not going to change
     
  16. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    DeathRaider I know it can be frustrating but in my travels I have found it is better to team up with the people that are killing you so they can be on your side.
     
  17. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    Death, do you torture animals in your spare time? Because that's the direction your arguments are pointing to. Hiding and cowering behind internet anonymity in order to kill defenseless n00bs, what a noble and worthwhile endeavor!
    If bashing on noobs makes you feel better about yourself, as you claim, it says a whole lot about your self-image. And it's a very ugly one.
     
  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is open source info ... can be searched within this forum. :D
     
  19. Tehomyyrä

    Tehomyyrä Forum Greenhorn

    I think xp blocking out completely and something similar to a two-level system as Diablo 3. Where no one would be able to monkey around and when the levels go up all the time so it will pave the 5 level pvp struggles.

    Sorry Text google translator Finnish -English
     
  20. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    If the items dropped were based on the lowest level in the group rather than the highest, or if they were based on player level regardless of anyone in the group, twinking would drop significantly. Just my $0.02.
     
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